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Old 31.12.2009, 15:07   #1
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Totul porneste de la intrebarea "De ce ai nevoie de toata puterea de calcul a unui procesor atunci cand nu o folosesti?". Desigur, acest lucru se reflecta si pe factura de la energia electrica.
"Daca exista CnQ de ce mai e nevoie de inca un program?". Pai raspunsul e simplu: CnQ are niste valori deja definite pe care nu le puteti modifica. Mai exista un program asemanator, RMClock, insa avantajul lui K10Stat este ca poate fi folosit si pe procesoarele deblocate, care nu mai au suport CnQ si mai ales il puteti folosi chiar daca aveti procesorul overclock-at.
Programul este simplut, dar trebuie sa stiti niste lucruri pentru a-l folosi. Cam asa arata el:

K10Stat (Cool and Quiet la superlativ)-1.png

O mica legenda:

FID= multiplicatorul procesorului
DID= P-State

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Performance states

While a device or processor operates (D0 and C0, respectively), it can be in one of several power-performance states. These states are implementation-dependent, but P0 is always the highest-performance state, with P1 to Pn being successively lower-performance states, up to an implementation-specific limit of n no greater than 16.

P-states have become known as SpeedStep in Intel processors, PowerNow! or Cool'n'Quiet in AMD processors and PowerSaver in VIA processors.
  • P0 max power and frequency
  • P1 less than P0, voltage/frequency scaled
  • Pn less than P(n-1), voltage/frequency scaled
Pentru cei ce au ramas in ceata, se poate regla totul doar din FID, adica multiplicator, DID-ul ofera posibilitatea setarii frecventei in pasi mai mici (25,50Mhz).
Se pot configura 5 profile pentru a extinde posibilitatile de configurare.

Up% si down% reprezinta procentul de utilizare ce determina cresterea sau scaderea frecventei.

Up(ms) si down(ms) reprezinta intervalul in care se va produce trecerea de la o frecventa la alta. Un timp mai mic inseamna ca nu veti simti trecerea de la o frecventa la alta, iar un timp mai mare va ajuta sa economisiti mai mult curent electric, deoarece salturile in frecventa nu vor fi atat de dese.

Ce trebuie sa mai stiti, este ca in timpul testarii e posibil sa primiti BSOD sau calculatorul sa nu mai raspunda la comenzi. O sa dureze ceva pana invatati limitele procesorului, dar merita.

Se ia urmatorul caz:
AMD Sempron LE 140 deblocat in Athlon 2 X2 440. Frecventa stock 2700Mhz, voltaj 1.4V (+0.50V din BIOS).

Idle:

K10Stat (Cool and Quiet la superlativ)-2.png

Load:

K10Stat (Cool and Quiet la superlativ)-3.png

O diferenta destul de mare. La un procesor overclockat diferenta creste si mai mult.


Ca sa il faceti sa ruleze trebuie sa creati un shortcut, apoi dati click dreapta pe shortcut si la target puteti adauga urmatoarele comenzi:

-lp:#(1-5) - load profile#(1-5)
-nw - Start K10stat with NoWindow.
-ClkCtrl:#(0-4) - Enable Clock Control by K10stat.
0 = No Control
1 = Control clock of each core.
2 = Control clock of all cores together (based on highest load core).
3 = Control clock of all cores together (based on average load).
4 = Control clock of all cores together (based on lowest load core).
*Cea mai mare performanta o va oferi setarea -ClkCtrl:2.
-StayOnTray = folositi aceasta setare impreuna cu -nw pentru Clock Control Mode. Dupa ce calculatorul intra in standby, registrii si voltajul procesorului sunt resetati, de aceea aveti nevoie de -StayOnTray, pentru a fi siguri ca K10Stat ruleaza in background.

K10Stat (Cool and Quiet la superlativ)-4.png

De exemplu: E:\Downloads\k10stat\K10STAT.exe -lp:1 -nw -StayOnTray -ClkCtrl:2

K10Stat (Cool and Quiet la superlativ)-5.png

Shortcut-ul il adaugati in folderul Startup, ca porneasca de fiecare data cand porniti calculatorul.
Atentie! De fiecare data cand faceti overclock, scoateti K10Stat de la startup ca sa nu se blocheze la intrarea in Windows. Dupa ce ati intrat in Windows, nu rulati K10Stat din shortcut, ci din executabilul original pentru a-l putea configura.


NOTE: Nici eu, nici comunitate PCGarage nu este raspunzatoare pentru eventualele daune provocate prin urmarirea ghidului de mai sus.
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Smecher tutorial. Bravo ! Aproape de nota 10, totusi ii mai lipsesc limitele anumitor procesoare. Eu sunt de parere ca suntem o comunitate destul de mare si vom fi capabili impreuna sa completam acest tutorial cu limitele catorva procesoare.

Trec la testat si ma intorc cu limitele lui X2 4000.
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Daca poate face cineva un test pentru X2 550 BE deblocat, pentru ca asa nu mai functioneaza CnQ.
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Old 08.01.2010, 23:28   #4
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De ce nu faci chiar tu?

@NRG, am stat si m-am gandit. Suna bine ideea ta, dar nu toate procesoarele se comporta la fel. Desi, ne putem incadra intre niste cifre ...
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Pentru un intel ca al mei este posbil sa cobor sub 2000mhz(333*6)?
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Cool and Quiet este tehnologie AMD. Tu ai C1E şi EIST care fac automat toată treaba.
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Deci sa inteleg ca se aplica numai pentru amd. Stiu ca am acele tehnologii dar nu pot sa scad multiplicatorul sub 6. Ma gandesc ca nu este posibil din constructia cpu
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mateevskici, incearca cu RMClock.
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... avantajul lui K10Stat este ca poate fi folosit si pe procesoarele deblocate, care nu mai au suport CnQ si mai ales il puteti folosi chiar daca aveti procesorul overclock-at.
Si CnQ merge pe procesoare overclockate, cel putin in Windows Seven fara probleme (probabil si pe alte sisteme de operare)
In XP nu mai stiu sigur daca il aveam activat din Bios.
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Merge pana la un anumit punct, iar unele placi de baza dezactiveaza CnQ atunci cand modifici frecventa FSB-ului.
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Postez si eu ce am reusit in K10Stat pentru 550BE on Asus 790XTD EVO
Poate va fi cuiva util
CnQ merge intradevar pe Win7 insa de exemplu in cazul meu 800Mhz ii obtineam cu 1V.
In plus asa pot schimba dupa nevoi profilele mai ales ca in 90% din cazuri 2000Mhz este absolut suficient si deci pastrez alimentarea la 1V
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Cam mare procentul la care urca in frecventa. Nu simti ca "trage" greu?
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Nici vorba initial l-am pus chiar la 90% pentru ca pur si simplu in aplicatiile zilnice 1000Mhz este suficient.
In plus setand timpul de trecere la un profil superior la minim cand este nevoie urca instant la 3600Mhz.
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Asta se poate folosi si pe procesor cu multiplicator blockat? (amd b45)

Si se poate tzine si cu OC? Voltaju in BIOS trebuie sa fie pe default? (eu am -0.025v pe 3.4ghz)

Si CnQ trebuie sa fie activat nu?

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Da.
Da. Nu.
Nu.

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